Things are turning around for Caboodle Ranch – Letter to the Editor
Things are turning around for Caboodle Ranch. Yes, it may be baby steps but the very fact that Caboodle Ranch WILL NOT give up the fight for what is right, is finally starting to pay off. If you read the Judge’s ruling on the ASPCA Cost Hearing, it may seem a bit confusing. Fortunately, our lawyer friend that has been a crucial part in uncovering the wrong doings of the ASPCA, made things clearer for us. Here is an excerpt from him:
“ Paragraph 2 of the findings is sweepingly broad. Notice the difference between Paragraph 3. In it, it says there was no agency relationship for purposes of the animal cruelty statute, but paragraph 2 says there was no relationship of any kind. If paragraph 2 stands, it seems that the ASPCA committed trespass and conversion (theft essentially) when its people entered Caboodle Ranch’s land and took Caboodle Ranch’s cats and continued to hold them.
Since the ASPCA actually participated in the proceeding that produced this ruling, they would normally be precluded (by “collateral estoppel”) from challenging the factual finding in paragraph 2 in a subsequent lawsuit brought against them by Caboodle Ranch for damages. Judge Parker might as well have painted a bull’s eye on the ASPCA’s back. “
The Prosecution is putting together “an offer” soon. One could assume they are feeling the weight of the real meaning the Judge’s ruling and are shaking in their boots. They will not be able to prove “animal cruelty” , especially with all the contrary evidence that Caboodle’s lawyer has.
Our hope, is that in the end, this will mean that Craig and Caboodle Ranch will have their reputation restored and that the ASPCA will be under extreme scrutiny of their actions and expenditures. We also hope that there will be a group that steps in to ‘step up’ the guidelines and fairness for small rescues and shelters all across the U.S. Yes, of course there needs to be guidelines on health and safety but not unreasonable ones and “made up” ones that come from 3rd party personal agenda opinions.
Please pay close attention to the news of late. Recently the ASPCA has been making headlines, and not good ones. The truth is coming out. The ASPCA has recently had to award a circus almost 10 million dollars for wrongful actions. They have also been in the news for abuse of the animals they “rescued” that were displaced from the devastating storm Sandy. The president resigned and they have not been able to replace him. He made a whopping 500,000 a year! They make tens of millions of dollars in donations from hard working people. Be watchful of what they do with it.
After all that has been done to Craig and the cats, and the ranch, he still has to prepare for the criminal trial. There is not a date set as of yet. We are still holding out hope that someone with a brain cell in that courthouse will drop the case and see that it is wrong and a total waste of money and time, and let Craig get on with his life. Pick up the pieces and try to get through his losses.
Skye Holloway
I cannot even begin to elaborate on what is left out “conveniently” from that account. I think we see there an outstanding case of transference, another specialty of the ASPCA/HSUS supporters: accuse others of that of which one is oneself guilty, aka in the vernacular, a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
One thing that the CR supporters conveniently leave out when they blame PETA and the ASPCA is that neither of those groups ordered the seizure. They have no legal jurisdiction in Madison County. The events transpired in the following order:
1. Animal control, the sheriff, ASPCA, PETA, HSUS were receiving complaints about CR from numerous people since 2008. Pictures from individual complaints can be found on the internet.
2. In 2009, animal control and a sheriff deputy asked for UF veterinary medicine team and HSUS to visit the ranch to assess the situation. It was not a pretty picture. A copy of this report is available on the internet.
3. In May 2011, several individuals sent the sheriff affidavits of what they witnessed at CR along with photos for proof. Those photos can be found on the internet. The sheriff agreed there was abuse but the District Attorney said he didn’t have time to prosecute. He had cases that took precedent.
4. After, non-action by the county for 3 years, despite the continuous complaints by visitors and volunteers, PETA went undercover at CR. They then turned over their evidence to the sheriff and prosecutor. Finally, the prosecutor took the case seriously.
5. The sheriff asked the ASPCA for their assistance because the county did not have the manpower, finances, or resources to seize the cats, care for them, and collect evidence.
In a nutshell that’s what led up to the seizure. If the ASPCA had not of assisted, the cats would have most likely of been euthanized. Who else other than HSUS could have cared for 700 cats? You saw the massive number of people it took to care for them.
Jds, paranoia is, I believe, unreasonable fear. It really doesn’t look to me like the fear was “unreasonable” considering. Come to think of it, perhaps there was a conspiracy, eh? Perhaps one surrounding a certain piece of animal protection legislation?
Well, Elise, I guess you are the world’s foremost living authority on everything. That, along with the name calling and unwarranted accusations against people you do not know, is what makes you such an attractive person. There are no conspiracy theories that I know of. In fact, I am not sure what you are talking about. Observable bullying is what it is. But then, I forgot: you are the authority on that also.
It “always ends up this way” because Elise and her vicious friends can’t let go. They are doing and have done the ASPCA more damage than good by showing more reasonable animal lovers how ugly the organization really is. And you know what is weird? They are totally blind to it. But instead of going after corporate abuse as they used to, it seems they hurry to take on little people they think don’t have the means to defend themselves so they can take pictures for those pathetic ads you see.
Skye, you said that very few people worked at CR. Why is that? That’s one of the numerous reasons the cats were neglected. Not enough staff. It wasn’t due to people not offering, it was due to Craig being paranoid. If everything was on the up and up. Why be paranoid? I’ve never come across a shelter that turned volunteers away. They welcome them with open arms. And before you say Craig didn’t turn anyone away, in the winter of 2010/2011 there is an entry on CR’s blog stating they were not accepting help due to people trying to bring them down.
If anyone here thinks that Craig is going to get off the hook for animal cruelty, you’re sadly mistaken. The evidence is overwhelming and the ASPCA’s and PETA’s evidence is admissible in court. If the prosecutor didn’t think he had enough evidence, he would call in former volunteers who reported Craig for animal cruelty. There is not a shortage of witnesses.
Skye:
You are right.
It does always end up with the truth prevailing with no way out or wiggle room for the non-truth tellers to respond.
I guess seeing all the different conspiracy theories listed with all those involved, and realizing that THREE or FOUR separate conspiracies plotting against Caboodle Ranch, Craig Grant and/or the land going on at the same time does NOT make any logical sense what so ever and I can see why you would give up responding.
Thank you
Thank you.
It appears that it always ends up this way. The “truth Clarifier” appears to be Elise or one of her ‘soldiers’. You can make any comment without her coming back with a novel of ‘explanations’ that makes everything in her world right and everyone else wrong. So no more comments from this gal. There were very few that were actually working at the ranch and SAW with their own eyes the true way of the ranch. Instead of the nay sayers that only go by rumor and the witch hunters words. Tens of thousands of people are behind Caboodle Ranch and Craig Grant. And things are coming around and being revealed. Little more time and you will see. The haters will have to find some other good human trying to make a difference to destroy and drag through the mud…seems like that’s all they are after…
To L.N:
Hate to break the news to you also, but you ALSO do not get to be attorney, judge, and jury in this or any matter. So why is it you can give your legal interpretations, but I cannot. Gee, more illogical reasoning from Caboodle Ranch’s slow kill movement supporters. I saw some people posting that term and it sure seems to fit what was going on at Caboodle Ranch.
To Skye:
Your right. I don’t believe everything I read on the internet, like all the hog wash that Caboodle Ranch operaters claim that the rescue operation was a set up, all the dead cats staged, all the sick cats let loose, the evidence is photo shopped, yada yada yada. Its all pure hog wash. Only a fool would believe it, and I have seen the comments by some of the “Slow Kill Movement” and they sound like Alex Jones with their conspiracy theories.
Complete lunacy, all of it, including that Caboodle Ranch was a target for PETA or the Big 3 so they could get the donations that Caboodle Ranch was receiving. Who actually believes that kind of garbage any ways????
In the words of the great Ronald Regean: “Trust but Verify” and that is what I did when it came time to decide who is telling the truth about Caboodle Ranch cats. I believe the court evidence, documents and the Judge’s opinion that the cats had to be removed permanently and the Ranch shut down. My God, he cited THIRTEEN REASONS, not just one or a handful.
Also the State’s Exhibit list does NOT list any vet records seized from the Ranch. Only vet records for Dr. Lewis. And records seized for the on-going investigation of Caboodle Ranch for fraud which I can only assume are the financial records and receipts found, or what ever evidence they took to support that alleged crime.
So excuse me if I do not believe your version that the Sheriff took all the vet records and your insinuation that the prosecution claims they do not have them and the Sheriff or prosecution destroyed them to get Craig Grant??? If so, for what reason?
I saw another post some where Caboodle Ranch said they now have all the records in their possession.
So which version is it? The Sheriff stole the records and then he or the prosecution destroyed them, or he finally turned them back over to Caboodle Ranch???? I ask Caboodle Ranch if they have the 500 vet records to PLEASE post them on your web site and/or facebook page for everyone to see that you actually have them!! I doubt they do and thus the reason they will NOT post them. You cannot post what you do not have because they did not exist.
Do you ever list all the allegations that Caboodle Ranch’s operators have made, and do you really think it all adds up?
Make a list of all the “conspirators in the Caboodle Ranch Raid”, and then be rational as to whether or not it could actually been done, And the answer is clearly NO!!!!
So far from what I have read:
(1) the Board of County Commission in Madison wanted to shut down the Ranch, take the land for monetary reasons, passed an EAH permit to close down the Ranch and get the land, and some woman Dale is trying to get to the bottom of it but is being stone walled is their proof. Note: If that was the plan, why did they need the ASPCA to help with a rescue operation via search and arrest warrant. All the County had to do was say to Caboodle, you failed the inspections twice, we are shutting you down and taking all but 30 cats. However, Caboodle Ranch was given an exension by the Board to get passed for the EAH permit. So another contradictory statement by Caboodle Ranch.
(2) the Sheriff was assisting the Board of County Commission for the county to take the land?
(3) PETA wanted to use the Ranch as an example to stop FARA which never had a chance of passing in the first place (no money in the Republicna budget) coincidentially at the same time the Board and the Sheriff were plotting to get the land via an EAH permit ordinance failed compliance.
(4) PETA was to blame for cats with URIs, FIV, FeLV and ringworm found raoming ALL over the Ranch. Yet the last volunteer before the Ranch as you say was a couple days before the Raid, so why did Craig NOT notice ALL the sick cats out of their designated areas, correct the problem before the Sheriff showed up bc he did after all work 14 hour days, and the manager had finally moved onto the Ranch. He had to of known if he was giving medicine to the cats and using the “phantom vet records located at the Ranch”.
Also, who let Tommy out??? Tommy who was under doctor’s orders to be quarantined and that was Craig’s favorite cat so for days he did not know poor Tommy was not quarantined as required??? So Craig was NOT caring for Tommy the two days before the raid. Sorry don’t buy this one for a minute.
(5) the ASPCA in the presence and with the consent of the Sheriff planted evidence and dead cats on Caboodle Ranch grounds to get Caboodle Ranch’s donations (which never was more than $250,000 per year – chump change to those people I would assume) and manufactured evidence that was introduced in the custody trial and will be introduced in the criminal trial. I can only assume Caboodle Ranch’s attorney will object to the authenticity of the criminal evidence in a pre-trial motion then?
(6) The Judge who sided with the ASPCA/Sheriff about the evidence, but no reason has been given for his role in the conspiracy plot which seems to include more people by the day. I guess he was in on the “getting the land for money via the EAH permit plot”.
(7) Lets not forget the “vendetta” against Craig by some unknown “scorned” woman that seems to be mentioned on occassion. I mean how can one woman be able to shut down a legitimate cat sanctuary???
(8) Oh yea, another one, it was a “vendetta” by a “small group of people” from Jacksonville Florida.
None of the above adds up in my book. So please wake up and smell the cat pooh you are being fed.
My God, I am surprised Caboodle Ranch has not alleged there was a shooter on the grassy knoll at the Ranch during the rescue operation as well.
Skye H., if there were over 500 cat records seized during the raid, then why did Mr. Grant’s attorney not bring that up during the custody hearing? Dr. Lewis testified that he only had around 250 records, and that 50 of those cats were dead. That was the only mention of records for the cats. And how could the PETA investigator possibly have known that the ASPCA would take part in a raid two months after her departure? Ninety-five FIV positive cats were missing from the FIV barn on the day of the raid, and twenty-nine of them were in the sick ward, despite that being the last place where immuno-compromised cats should be.
Interesting how this LN person thinks they have all the facts. The Sherrif’s dept took all of CR’s records on the cats, over 500 records documenting every cat and the vaccines it recieved. And the prosecution says in court “CR had NO cat records!” And yet they are in THEIR posession..Secondly it is NOT a FLorida state law that you have to have your cats tested for Leukemia or FIV, it wasn’t until 2010 when CR had the finances to be able to do extra testing on cats. They always asked people that were bringing cats to have them tested and vaccinated first. Many took them straight to Dr. Lewis to be done before arriving at the ranch. There is a special FIV building for the special needs kitties that was donated to the ranch 3 years ago. It was fully contained. (The spy, Lauren, was caught letting out some of those cats just days before the raid. No doubt so that ASPCA could “find” that those cats were mixed in with the non FIV cats. Lauren…a 21 year old with no money, becomes an “investigator” for PETA. PETA has job ads on the internet for “investigators”…they need to be at least 21 and can operate a digital camera.) Wow…real professional and credible.
People, you cannot believe everything you read on the internet. The “haters” ahve posted sites and “stories” that the uninformed automatically buy as the truth. Adn just because the ASPCA is a big group does not mean they do not falsify information or exaggerate a situation so that it appears they are the ones in the right. Come on people, you cannot stop the truth. No matter how hard the haters try, it is still coming out. What goes around comes around…ten fold.
Gee, I am so sorry to break it to you folks, but you do not get to be attorney, judge, and jury in this or any matter.
That is the difference between the rule of law and a witch hunt. It is a distinction which it appears you are hopelessly incapable of assimilating.
Do not donate to the ASPCA or the HSUS, everybody. PETA was toast in this county long ago, and it seems these organizations are no different, sadly: extremist lobbyists, bullies, and vindictive, strident women.
If you want an animal charity, go to your local no-kill, one you can keep tabs on by visitation, or Best Friends. Those charities don’t need Internet prowlers, pathetic, emotionally manipulative ads, and google alerts. Their mission is their message and speaks for itself.
L.N., you might want to take a look at the judge’s order awarding custody of the cats to the sheriff. One of the thirteen reasons he gave for not returning the cats to Craig Grant is that Mr. Grant did not quarantine infectious cats. The evidence the ASPCA found will be used in Mr. Grant’s criminal trial–they conducted the raid and investigated the grounds at the request of the sheriff, and there was nothing illegal about it. They were not awarded costs due to a technicality in the contract agreement. Caboodle Ranch has an interest in telling it’s supporters that the raid was illegal–they are still soliciting donations, even though they do not have any cats.
L.N.
Hate to break the news to you but just because the ASPCA was not designted an agent by a Judge or the Board of County Commission does not make their evidence inadmissable in court. It only barred them from being able to collect the costs they incurred to care for the animals during the custody hearing because they were NOT appointed to care for the animals prior to the rescue operation. It does NOT bar the evidence from being admissable in the criminal trial that the ASPCA collected during the rescue operation.
The ASPCA was hired by the Sheriff to assist in the rescue operation and allowed to collect evidence with the consent of the Sheriff and remove any animals that were being neglected in the eyes of the Sheriff. Thus the ASPCA evidence will still be used against Craig Grant in the criminal trial for animal cruelty.
Not sure where you got the notion the ASPCA evidence will not inadmissable, but you are completely wrong.
Also if that was the case, the ASPCA evidence is not admissable. Then why hasn’t CR’s attorney filed a pre-trial motion objecting to the admissability of the ASPCA evidence???????????
You can’t testify hearsay, TP, and all the “evidence” the ASPCA says it has might be ruled as inadmissible anyway because they didn’t bother to follow legal procedure to conduct the raid. The laws count, even the ones you don’t believe in, I guess.
@Irish Cornaire, when the ASPCA found FeLV and FIV cats in the sick ward and roaming the grounds (not confined in their own pen, as they were supposed to be), it was many months after the PETA investigator had left.
Ms. Cornaire, Elise Perkins was told by a Madisonian writer on this site to “Go home and leave us alone.”. This Madisonian was not a ranch supporter but just someone “sick of it” and all the outside interference.
That is, by the way, 1.8 million, not 18 million. One can but hope.
We didn’t “drop,off” any cats at CR. We arranged to have them picked up by Craig. We were asked to have them tested first and we did. We also got them fixed. We were not asked for a donation but made one anyway.
There are all kinds off”takers” who are ready to victimize and use people like Craig Grant for their,own ends. That in my opinion is what the ASPCA and its supporters have done in this case and I do well and truly hope that they end up having to pay far more than the 18 mil they already have lost In what I adjudge to be their arrogant haste to be seen as heroic.
To Irish,
Per the evidence admitted into the court file, the FIV building was NOT secure and cats could come and go as they please on purpose. A ramp was actually made so that the cats could jump on the ramp, go out the open window and roam the Ranch. So who built the ramp? Craig built the ramp. If the PETA agent built it, Craig would have seen it, removed it and fired the PETA agent. The ASPCA have pictures of the ramp on day one of the rescue. Sorry, Craig did not want to quarantine sick cats, he just wanted to give the appearance of quaranting them so he could stay out of trouble with Animal Control and obtain the EAH permit. But it did not work.
Also, the accusation the PETA agent made the FIV building accessable to cats to go in and out is just non-sense. Why? Because if that was the case, then with the “morning head count” that Craig claims he does every morning according to his FAQ page to check on the cats welfare, he would have noticed the FIV cats out of their enclosure, figured out why and closed the opening that the PETA lady made.
The last time the PETA lady was at the Ranch was in the beginning of January, and the rescue operation happened the last week of February. So for almost 2 months Craig did not realize the PETA lady made the FIV building accessable so cats can come and go???????? If Craig missed that problem, then that is the reason the court opined he is not capable of operating the Ranch as stated in the court order.
Finally, vet records from University of Florida Vet School which gave recomendations to Craig, which he signed, stated that Tommy had to be quarantined and kept away from other cats and kept inside. However, the day of the rescue operations, Tommy was in the General Store. Why is that??? The PETA agent was no where near the Ranch at that time and when Tommy came back from UF after treatment.
Sorry, weak defense. Try again!
@ Clarifying the Truth why are ye hiding behind a handle instead of ye using ye real name?,something to hide maybe?
Those FIV cats were contained in the infirmary until the PeTA spy purposely let them out to mingle with the healthy cats and once this whole farce is over and done with we will be going after her!
L.N.
With all due respect you missed by point about the contagious diseases issue.
The diseased cats were NOT quarantined as required by law but allowed to roam free with the other healthy cats and infect them. The high average rate reflects that.
Cats were brought to the Ranch were NOT infected with these diseases but obtained them at the Ranch. When owners claimed their cats at the Jax Shelter, if they were lucky to find them at all, they found out that their previously owned healthy cats free of disease became infected with either FIV or FeLV or both, but they took them any ways and adopted cats with the same disease so they could have companions.
The previous owners had medical records to back it up. So that is my POINT!!!!!!!!! CR allowed perfectly healthy cats to become infected with highly contagious and life threatening diseases. That is what the Judge ruled and one of the main reasons the cats were allowed to be taken away. ALL the cats at CR were in danger due to CR’s failure to quarantine them as stated by the Judge. Plain and simple.
Would you take in a cat with FIV and/or FeLV while you already have cats, allow them to play and live together so that eventually all your cats catch the disease(s) and that would be OK with you? That is what it seems to me the point you are making about the high rate at CR, and if I am wrong, please tell me.
Also, CR did NOT test ANY cats for these diseases when dropped off or those left by strangers w/out their consent, which they should have done, or asked for the records to prove they were healthy or needed to be separated from the non-infected cats. But that procedure was never done and the probably cause of the high rate at CR. CR did not advertise itself as a place to take in these types of cats, so that would not explain the high rate either. There are vet records by which CR declined to test cats for FIV and/or FeLV when they took them to see Dr. Lewis to find out why they were sick. So that tells me CR was NOT concerned about these diseases and did NOT CARE if they obtained them or not, and had no problem if every cat at the Ranch had the disease. That is NOT what a sanctuary is. A place where a cat goes to catch a deadly disease.
Also, there were more cats found with FIV and FeLV in the Sick Ward than there was in the FIV building!!! Why is that? Because CR allowed access from the “quarantined buildings” so the cats could come and go as they pleased, which is against the law because it is dangerous and invites these diseases to spread to healthy cats. Its also very dangerous for the FIV and FeLV cats found in the sick ward becuase they were exposed to illnesses that could worsen their condition and cause their death.
Not that cats with FIV or FeLV are any less worthy to live, but having these deadly diseases makes thier life a little more difficult than if they were healthy. Cats with these diseases require more medical care than just shots, etc. But there were NO medical records produced by Dr. Lewis that followed and maintained the care for the cats at CR with these deadly diseases. NOT ONE SINGLE RECORD for any of the cats with special needs, except for Tommy and UF recommended that he be kept away from any cats and kept inside. However, he was found in the General Store with a lot of other cats with URIs, FIV and FeLV. That is NOT a good environment for Tommy to have been living in with FIV.
These cats were just left to roam to infect other cats and try to survive on their own without the proper medical care and check-ups required for cats with these diseases. A cat with this disease can die from a simple cold bc their immune system is compromised from their disease and the cat can’t fight the infection. That is what was going on at Caboodle Ranch.
I know cats with these diseases live very long and happy lives. Many of my friends have cats with FIV and/or FeLV that are rescue cats and it takes a lot of work and care to ensure they remain happy and healthy.
I did not even mention that 39% of the cats had upper respiratory conditions that are more than just a “common cold”. URIs are caused by both bacterial and viral infections. Thus the reason when a cat has a URI, it must be quarantined for the viral “cold” to run it course and the cat can recover. Those with bacterial infections have to also be quarantined and given anti-biotics to recover. However, if both types of URIs are left untreated, they become deadly. And cats with URIs were found all over the Ranch and again, no medical records produced regarding their treatment, like when they got their anti-biotics and how long they had been on them and in the sick ward, etc.
That is my point!!
For example, the writer’s statistic and comment about FeLV neglects to mention that FeLV cats can live fairly long and pleasant lives with palliative care. Their condition can even be put successfully into remission with medication although the normal “shelter” decision is to kill the cat upon a positive finding whether the cat shows signs of physical illness or not. The writer also neglects to mention that the statistic could be abnormally high because CR, unlike the normative ASPCA “shelter,” accepted FeLV positive cats, only asking that cats given to them be tested for the virus, presumably so they could be placed in a proper environment with other positive cats.
Dr. S., my eyes were also opened about the ASPCA by this travesty. I am totally convinced that these people are not rescuers but rather political activists who are bent on legislating and propagandizing their own opinions into power over all other pet owners, responsible breeders, and rescuers while nominating themselves heroes: arrogant, condescending, and inhumane. They seem to have their google alerts set so that, if CR is mentioned anywhere on the Internet, they can race there to post their version of “the truth.” You would think they are paid lobbyists!
Dr. Betty Schueler
Here is a copy of the Judge’s Order citing 13 reasons why he decided to close down Caboodle
Ranch and remove ALL animals from their care and bar them from owning any live animals in the future.
I think this is pretty straigh forward and if CR did not clean up their act in 3 years and refused to follow the advice of their own vet and Animal Control Officer for 3 years, and CR continually refused help from rescue organizations prior to the rescue operation. If CR had followed the Court Order of May 9, 2009, and their own vet and Animal Control’s advice, they would still be in operation today, and I would support them.
However, due to their refusal to comply for over 3 years to follow a Court Order and Florida Law regarding the care of their cats, especially NOT quaranting sick and deadly contagious cats (which caused others to get sick and die), and making sure they all had rabies shots (which is required by State Law), the Court realized that it would never change and took away the animals and closed the Ranch.
Also the “myth” that all the cats were healthy is hog wash. Due to lab work and physical exams, it was determined that 96.4% of the cats had some type of medical condition that needed to be treated by the ASPCA. Some cats were in such dire condition they had to be transported ASAP to local ER vet clinics for treatment directly from the Ranch during the rescue operation.
Maybe the reason you have NOT seen the horrible footage of what happened during the rescue operation is because it is considered work product in the criminal case and at this point it is NOT allowed to be disclosed to the public. However, if Craig goes to Court, ALL that evidence and video footage will be shown, entered into public record and the true conditions of Caboodle Ranch during the rescue operation will then be shown and the public can then see it all.
Also the percentage of deadly and contagious diseases was much higher than the average for a cat population that size. For example: 16% of the Cats at CR tested positive for FIV. The national average is 2.3% of the population. The study for the average was taken from a study in 2004 with 18,000 cats which is the closest they could compare to, so when you add the in the factor that it was 18,000 cats with that percentage and the low cat count at CR, the number of cats with FIV is EXTREMELY HIGH.
Another example: 10% of the Cats at CR tested positive for FeLV, while the national average is 2.3%. Again, EXTREMELY HIGH percentage for the number of cats in the care of CR.
These numbers are so high because cats with FeLV and FIV were allowed to roam throughout the entire ranch and associate with healthy cats which in turn the sick cats got the healthy cats sick.
That is the primary reason the Ranch was shut down. Not to thwart some leglislation that was trying to passed by the Florida Legislature which by the way NEVER would have passed if CR had NOT been closed down. The votes were never there to pass it in the first place. Remember, Florida has a Republican congress and there was no way it would pass because it would have added costs to the local animal control facilities and thus the votes were not there to pass FARA.
I hope you do your research and come to another conclusion. But if not, you have the right to your interpreation of the evidence and entitled to your opinion and to support who ever you want.
I choose NOT to support people who have been found in a court of law that their animals did not receive adequate and proper care, and the Judge’s Order gave very valid reasons why. And I believe the Judge’s reasoning over those who failed to provide proper and adequate care for the animals.
Dr. Betty Schueler,
With all due respect, have you researched the evidence and looked at the court file, the court evidence and the 13 reasons why CR was shut down due to its THREE year history of failing to provide proper and adequate care for the animals???
Also have you read the transcript of Dr. Lewis? He confirmed that Craig on a regular basis refused his vet recommendations for the treatment of CR’s very sick cats, and CR refused life saving vet care when cats were brought to him at death’s door. If you had done the research, I find it hard to believe you would support Caboodle Ranch with your reputation for animal rights.
I suggest you do a google search for “Caboodle Ranch Evidence” and then re-evaluate your position regarding Caboodle Ranch.
And then ye have ye pro-kill group saying differently,in fact just found one of them saying that Craig has to pay his attorney on a montly basis $4,000 to retain his attorney,I wonder she got that from,I think she pulled that one of of her %#@! because that is so false,and I look forward to them coming here to spew more lies,wot really baffles me tho is some pro-kill supporters actually have never ever been to the CR but yet they slam it and Craig,yep,just like sheep they will follow the lies!
The whole Caboodle case has been a travesty of justice. The ASPCA and PETA used gestapo-like tactics to ruin a man’s reputation, destroy property that had taken years to build, seize cats that were perfectly healthy (rather than just the sick ones) and cause Craig to spend money for legal services he shouldn’t have needed. All of this was done to lend support for their position on a bill that was about to be passed.
I wached the raid video, from the ASPCA, and kept looking for the cats in horrific condition. If they existed they didn’t show them. I saw one cat that was obviously already undergoing treatment. The rest looked happy and healthy to me though I am sure there were sick cats. You can’t have that many cats without some of them being sick just as in any group of 700 humans a certain portion of them will be sick at any given time.
I am glad that some of our major animal rescue groups are being shown up for the self-rightous groups they are. I was an avid supporter of the ASPCA until they raided the Caboodle Ranch. As a researcher, by profession, I went back and researched all the information I could obtain about the ranch and was dumbfounded when I realized the raid was a political ploy.
I already knew PETA was a radical group but I had no idea the ASPCA and Humane Society had been taken over by the radicals. A review of the recent actions left me realizing I was supporting groups that were working against the best interests of animals so I withdrew my support.
I hope Craig is able to sue the ASPCA for damages. It is going to take a lot of money for him to rebuild the ranch. And for those of you who support the ASPCA, please realize that by their own accounting they spent 3 million dollars to save 700 cats that didn’t need saving. That means each cat cost them $4286.00. Imagine how much good that would have done the cats, at the ranch, if the money had been spent to help Craig and his cats instead of to destroy the ranch.
And no matter what the ASPCA tries to tell you, somewhere 700 cats died as a result of the raid. I don’t know of any shelters that weren’t full up before the raid so space had to be found some way and that usually involves killing off the overload. Craig’s cats might not have been killed but someone’s cats were. That means the ASPCA actually spent 3 million dollars to kill 700 cats and destroy a cat sanctuary. What a deplorable use of money that was donated to help save animals.
P.S.: The doctrine of collateral esatoppel says that you can’t relitigate the same facts in a new cause of action involving the same parties.
In the criminal proceeding, the ASPCA will be a witness, not a party.
Any prior determination that the ASPCA had no agency relationship with the County, or no relationship whatsoever (which is fatally vague) would not be binding or even material in the criminal proceeding.
At the very least, the ASPCA had a bailment relationship with the Sheriff. A bailment exists when one party takes possession of another party’s property for a temporary purpose, e.g. a dry cleaner taking in your clothes, or you borrowing a friend’s bicycle while she is on vacation.
All in all, the post is an attempt to build a whole legal edifice on a grain of sand.
The criminal case is not going to collapse because a judge in a prior civil proceeding said the ASPCA did not have an agency relationship, or any relationship, with the County.
Which is it, by the way? The two findings are contradictory, and they’re just assuming the one they like better is the one that will prevail.
Be sure to include the HSUS in with the ASPCA. The HSUS is also a defendant in the Ringling suit. That organization has just not settled as the ASPCA has.
CR, if you can sue or prosecute for trespass, more power to you!